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For most people who are thinking of investing, risk is a key consideration. Beginners often put most of their money into ‘index-trackers’, vehicles that simply mimic the performance of one or more markets such as the UK or the US stock markets. This is known as passive investing.
Over the long-term, investing in the stock market through funds or direct shares has been proven to beat the returns from cash savings, hands-down, because they allow the investor to participate in the economic returns and value generated by the underlying companies.
Index-trackers can be in the form of Exchange Traded Funds (ETFs) or Index Funds. Both offer low cost market access and can be bought through an investment platform/stockbroker.
For those who aspire to beat the market through active stock selection, allocating capital to active funds or investment trusts or to individual companies (stock picking) is an option. Active investing, whether through selecting funds or picking stocks, requires time, motivation, some analytic skills and diligent research, but the intellectual challenge itself can be very rewarding.
Creating a relatively small fun portfolio of individual stocks is a good way to learn. Many early-stage stock-pickers choose household names to invest in. There are many investing tools and apps available that let you practice using a simulated portfolio of shares without any actual investment or risk.
Individual investors today face a fundamental decision when allocating capital for long-term growth: should they favour low-cost, globally diversified trackers that simply aim to deliver the market performance efficiently; should they choose active vehicles, such as funds or investment trusts, delegating stock selection to a professional manager in the hope of beating the market, or should they actively select individual company shares in pursuit of higher returns? This choice lies at the heart of asset allocation strategy.
This article, prepared for the ShareSoc Investor Academy, explores the advantages and disadvantages of each approach, aiming to equip members with the insights needed to make informed investment decisions aligned with their goals and circumstances.
A significant body of evidence highlights the challenges of consistently outperforming the market. Regular reports from S&P Dow Jones Indices Versus Active (SPIVA) serve as a crucial scorecard in the active versus passive debate1 . These studies consistently demonstrate that a large majority of actively managed funds fail to beat their respective benchmark indices, particularly over longer time horizons such as five, ten, or fifteen years3 .
The SPIVA Europe Year-End 2024 report revealed that 91% of euro-denominated Global Equity funds underperformed the S&P World Index over the year – the highest one-year underperformance rate recorded1 . Similarly, 83% of pan-European equity funds lagged the S&P Europe 350 benchmark 8 .
This trend often intensifies over time. Across various European categories, the 10-year underperformance rate averages around 92-93% for equity funds1 . And in the US market, over a 20-year period, approximately 94% of large-cap active funds failed to beat their benchmarks7 .
This persistent underperformance stems partly from the higher fees and costs associated with active management, from the inherent difficulty in consistently identifying mispriced securities in relatively efficient markets 9 , and from behavioural biases exhibited by even professional investors.
Index trackers, on the other hand, tend to offer performance which is closer to that of the underlying market, and do so for minimal cost.
They can also offer powerful diversification benefits16. A single global index ETF, such as one tracking the FTSE All-World index, may hold thousands of individual stocks (often over 3,600 18) spanning numerous countries, sectors, and currencies20. This broad diversification significantly reduces company-specific (idiosyncratic) risk, so poor performance of any single company is unlikely to severely damage the overall portfolio16. Geographic diversification also helps smooth returns over time, as weakness in one geographic region may be offset by strength in another, providing resilience against localised economic or political shocks17.
Cost efficiency is another major advantage. The Total Expense Ratios (TERs) for broad global index ETFs are typically very low, often ranging from 0.07% to 0.22% per annum18. This contrasts sharply with the higher average expense ratios charged by actively managed funds9. Lower costs have a significant positive impact on long-term returns due to the power of compounding 9.
Despite the strong case for passive investing, many investors remain drawn to selecting individual shares. A primary motivation is the pursuit of ‘alpha’ – returns above the market benchmark.
The search for alpha often involves attempting to exploit perceived market inefficiencies or targeting specific ‘factor premiums’ 32. Academic research has identified historical premiums associated with certain types of stocks, such as the ‘small-cap premium’ (where smaller companies potentially offer higher growth due to being less researched 34) and the ‘value premium’ (where stocks deemed undervalued based on metrics like price-to-book ratio have historically outperformed). However, the persistence and accessibility of these premiums for individual investors are debated and capturing them often requires specific expertise or involves higher risk 36.
Another potential source of premium returns is the ‘illiquidity premium’ associated with less liquid asset classes such as private equity, private debt, real estate and infrastructure. While potentially attractive, direct access to private equity typically requires very large investments, involves long lock-up periods, and presents significant complexity, making it largely inaccessible for most retail investors39. Arguably, the PE illiquidity premium can be accessed via quoted PE trusts (e.g. 3i Group, HgCapital Trust, HVPE, Oakley Capital Investments, Aberdeen Private Equity). These (except for 3i) currently trade on large (based on historic norms) discounts, which may or may not make them attractive. Identifying liquidity premiums is complex: it is therefore only “arguably” that such a premium can be accessed this way, as it is difficult to identify in quoted PE vehicles what the expected returns may be and what the reasons are for the discounts.
Investment trusts listed on stock exchanges offer an indirect route for investing in less liquid asset classes. Trusts introduce another layer of complexity, since they can trade at a discount or premium to the underlying asset value42 and may employ leverage. Newer structures such as Long-Term Asset Funds (LTAFs) aim to improve retail access in the UK but are still developing 43.
Many investors relish the intellectual challenge and rigour of picking stocks.
Individual investors often develop a close bond with their portfolio companies, understanding long-term strategy, engaging with directors, attending Annual General Meetings, and generally behaving as long-term owners, often with a sense of responsibility and stewardship. This behaviour can be beneficial to the investee company, and many boards go out of their way to cultivate relations with their individual investor base.
Beyond purely financial motives, many individuals derive significant intellectual stimulation and enjoyment from researching companies, analysing financial statements, and making their own investment decisions 45. For many, investing is as much a hobby or intellectual pursuit as it is a means to a financial end.
This non-financial benefit is a valid reason for engaging with individual stocks, provided the risks are understood.
Active stock selection also offers greater control, allowing investors to build portfolios precisely aligned with specific ethical considerations or thematic interests (e.g. investing solely in renewable energy companies or avoiding certain industries) in a way that broad market ETFs cannot easily replicate 23. While most individual stocks tend to underperform the market average over time, a small number of ‘superstar’ stocks generate exceptional returns and drive overall market performance 13. Successfully identifying and holding one of these winners early on – although statistically very difficult – can lead to portfolio growth far exceeding that of a diversified index fund.
But it is very important for individual investors to fully understand their motivations in direct investing, and to appreciate the risks. The same pitfalls which restrict the performance of active managers are relevant to individual investors.
Most importantly, if the intention of stock picking is to beat the odds, investors should take a step back and identify the personal “edge” which they believe they bring to the discipline and should be able to clearly articulate why they believe they will be successful. Over-confidence breeds underperformance!
The cost structures also differ significantly. ETFs have low annual management fees (TERs – Total Expense Ratios), but investors also pay platform fees. These platform fees vary: percentage-based fees (like Vanguard’s, though capped above £250k and subject to a new £4/month minimum for smaller accounts 55) are often cheaper for smaller portfolios, while flat-fee structures (like Interactive Investor’s 55) tend to benefit larger portfolios. Hargreaves Lansdown uses a tiered percentage fee for funds, which can be relatively expensive, but caps its fees for holding shares, ETFs, and investment trusts within ISAs (£45/year) and SIPPs (£200/year)55. Individual share investing avoids fund TERs but incurs platform fees (potentially capped, as noted), trading commissions (which vary by platform, e.g., £11.95 at HL vs £3.99 at ii55), and, crucially for UK shares, Stamp Duty Reserve Tax (SDRT) at 0.5% on purchases30. SDRT does not typically apply to ETF or fund purchases, creating an immediate cost hurdle for direct UK share investment 61 and for some investment trusts.
Choosing between index trackers, active funds and individual shares involves weighing several key factors.
Trackers provide near-market returns and inherent diversification16 for minimal cost. If the target market goes up, they provide a corresponding positive return, while if the market goes down, they provide a corresponding loss. Although performance relative to markets is therefore predictable, investors are nevertheless exposed to generic market movements and need to be able to absorb these without panicking.
Active funds introduce the concept of alpha, while delegating the actual stock picking to a professional manager. Whilst some managers have been able to demonstrate persistent skill in stock picking, they are very difficult to identify reliably, and they may lose their edge over time. The cost of active management is higher than that of index investing.
Investing in individual shares concentrates risk; while this offers the potential for higher returns if selections are successful, it also increases the potential for significant losses if chosen companies underperform 10. Individual investors should take time to calibrate the size of any stock picking portfolio to the size of their overall wealth, their psychological risk tolerance and their financial capacity for loss.
Finally, the required time and knowledge differ vastly. Passive ETF investing requires minimal ongoing effort beyond initial selection and periodic rebalancing. Active stock picking demands considerable time commitment for research, analysis, monitoring market news, and evaluating company performance10.
Table 1: Comparing Passive Global ETFs vs. Individual Shares
Feature |
Passive Global ETF |
Individual Shares |
Diversification |
High (thousands of stocks, multiple countries/sectors) |
Low (Concentrated in selected companies) |
Cost Components |
Low TER, Platform Fee (variable structure) |
No TER, Platform Fee (potentially capped), Trading Fee, Stamp Duty (0.5% on UK shares) |
Risk Profile |
Market Risk (broad), Low Specific Company Risk |
Market Risk + High Specific Company Risk |
Time Commitment |
Low |
High |
Potential Outperformance |
Aims for market return (minus costs) |
Potential for significant outperformance (or underperformance) |
Control/Ethical Alignment |
Limited (follows index) |
High (direct choice of companies) |
Intellectual Stimulation |
Low |
High |
Given the distinct characteristics of both passive and active approaches, many investors seek a blend. The concept of dedicating a small portion of a portfolio to active stock picking, while keeping the bulk in “beta” funds, resonates with many. This aligns with a well-established portfolio construction strategy known as the “core-satellite” approach 31.
In this framework, the core provides long-term stability and growth by tracking the broader market. It typically consists of broadly diversified, low-cost passive investments like global index ETFs 64. The satellite component allows investors to take more targeted risks or express specific views in pursuit of higher returns (alpha). This portion might include individual stocks (perhaps focusing on specific sectors, themes, or smaller companies), actively managed funds, or other higher-risk assets 64.
The core-satellite strategy offers a disciplined way to potentially capture the benefits of passive investing (low cost, diversification, market returns for the majority of assets) while still allowing for the intellectual engagement and potential outperformance sought through active selection in a controlled manner 64. The exact allocation between core and satellite (whether 90/10, 80/20, or another split) should be tailored to an individual’s risk tolerance, investment goals, time horizon, and level of interest and confidence in active management 31.
For many investors, the volatility associated with stock-market investing can already exceed their risk tolerance or their financial capacity for loss. Where this is the case, there is a strong argument for feeding a lower-risk component (such as bonds) into the allocation process.
The decision between trackers, active funds/trusts and individual shares involves trade-offs.
Passive ETFs offer compelling advantages through broad diversification and low costs. Active funds offer the opportunity for alpha generation without the need for deep stock-level analysis. Investing in individual shares holds appeal for its potential for outperformance, the direct control it offers for ethical or thematic alignment, and the intellectual engagement it provides 32.The core-satellite approach 64 offers a practical framework for ShareSoc members to potentially incorporate individual shareholdings within a disciplined strategy, balancing the evidence-based benefits of passive investing with the desire for active participation. Ultimately, the optimal approach depends on individual circumstances, risk appetite, and long-term financial objectives.
Cliff Weight, ShareSoc member and member of the ShareSoc Policy and Education committees
Disclaimer: Cliff Weight owns shares in the following companies mentioned in this article: 3i, HVPE and Oakley Capital.
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Meeting Frequency/Timing: | Monthly on the 1st Tuesday of the month, from 6:30pm. |
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Meeting Frequency/Timing: | Monthly on the 3rd Tuesday of the month, from 2-4pm. |
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Meeting Frequency/Timing: | Monthly on the 1st Wednesday of each month at 6pm. |
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Meeting Frequency/Timing: | Meetings run from 11am to 4pm, every two months on a Tuesday and include a lunch. |
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Meeting Frequency/Timing: | Monthly, usually on the first and second Thursday of each month from 7pm. Any face to face meetings will be during the daytime. |
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Meeting Type/Venue: | In person at a friendly pub close to Piccadilly Circus. We also have the option for members to join the meetings remotely if they are unable to attend in person. |
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Meeting Type/Venue: | Meetings are held online. |
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Meeting Frequency/Timing: | Monthly on the first Monday of the month.
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Meeting Frequency/Timing: | We meet every 2 months, usually on a Wednesday morning at 11am. |
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Meeting Type/Venue: | Online via Zoom |
Meeting Frequency/Timing: | The first Tuesday of every month from 7 to 9pm |
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Meeting Type/Venue: | We plan to meet physically every month during the day at various venues across West Sussex. During the summer months we may hold a number of evening meetings to encourage attendance from those unable to make meetings during the day. Additionally, we will hold online meetings from time to time. |
Meeting Frequency/Timing: | Meetings will be held on the second Monday of every month. Physical meetings will typically be from 11:30 to 15:30. Evening meetings and online meetings from 19:30 to 21:30. |
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Meeting Type/Venue: | We aim to meet on the last Tuesday of each month in a private room at a pub in Playhatch. Start time 7pm with members encouraged to meet up around 6pm for a bite to eat / drink before hand, if their diaries allow. |
Meeting Frequency/Timing: | 7pm on the last Tuesday of the month. Meetings likely to last about two hours but with informal ‘overspill’ before / after. |
Group description: | This group was set up as a forum to discuss companies in detail, each company is introduced by a member and discussion may last one or two hours. Membership is by invitation only and is for experienced investors. |
Meeting Type/Venue: | The group meets at a venue in Waterloo, London. |
Meeting Frequency/Timing: | Meetings are on Tuesday mornings at two month intervals. |
Group description: | This group was set up as a forum to discuss companies in detail, each company is introduced by a member and discussion may last one or two hours. Membership is by invitation only. |
Meeting Type/Venue: | The group meets at a venue in Waterloo, London. |
Meeting Frequency/Timing: | Meeting on Monday mornings at two month intervals. |
Group description: | Group of investors that meets on a bi-monthly basis to discuss all things happening in the world of investing, share each other’s knowledge and give the benefit of each other’s experience. Group primarily focuses on unit trusts, open ended investment companies and investment trusts. However, all investments are up for discussion and new members are always welcome and encouraged. |
Meeting Type/Venue: | Remotely via Zoom on Saturdays on a bi-monthly basis, on dates collectively agreed by all group members. |
Meeting Frequency/Timing: | Bi-monthly. |
Group description: | This group nominally covers the whole of Scotland – although we are also open to members from wider afield. The focus of the group will be on ‘Technical Trading’ rather than Investing. Importantly, we understand that many people do both longer term investing and shorter term ‘technical trading’. Of that mix of styles this group will focus on ‘technical trading’ – so you might expect us to have conversations such as:
Swing Trading, Stop Losses and Position Sizing, Chart Patterns – Cup and Handle, Breakouts, Springs, Flags etc, Support & Resistance, Indicators, Price Targets, Positive Expectancy, Trade Management, Trading Systems, Trade Ideas and Evaluation, Trade Planning, Leading and Lagging Sectors, Leading and Lagging Participants within Sectors, Trade Journals, and the ‘Tools of the Trade’. The majority of the group have both longer term investments and carry out shorter term trades, too. They would term themselves both ‘investors’ with a longer term outlook and ‘traders’ with a shorter term outlook. The group members have broad experience in the markets – including across all asset classes and vehicles (shares – companies, trusts, ETFs, funds; spread-bets, CFDs, Options, Crypto). However, most of the group are predominantly interested in equities within the context of a portfolio. Although some members are highly experienced traders that is not true of all and experience level should not be seen as an impediment to joining. So, if you don’t know who Richard Wyckoff was, or why Fibonacci is even more relevant today than in the 11th Century – don’t worry! Every day is a ‘school day’ for us all – Mr Market makes sure of that! |
Meeting Type/Venue: | The aim is to have a mix of formats to support the requirements of all group members: – Online meetings once per month. Nominally on the last Tuesday of the month in the afternoon. The group will utilise MS Teams. – Occasional Face to Face meetings during week days to suit those members who are retired. – Meetings of opportunity: taking advantage of local investment seminars and events to meet up within the context of investment & trading. |
Meeting Frequency/Timing: | Our aim is to meet at least once a month virtually with physical meetings when the opportunity arises. We are fortunate in Edinburgh to have many quality venues for meetings, and occasional investor events that allow ad-hoc meet-ups around the shared interest of investing & trading. |
Group description: | The Worcestershire group was established in January 2024, and is open to all SIGnet members who have an interest in profiting from, and developing their stock market experience (other asset classes qualify too!). Novices and Fund Managers are made equally welcome.
Meetings consider topical investment issues, facilitate the exchange of ideas, and are intended to provide a forum for the enjoyable sharing of areas of expertise. |
Meeting Type/Venue: | Face to face meetings are held monthly. Various venues in Worcestershire are used. |
Meeting Frequency/Timing: | Meetings are held monthly, on weekdays, typically staring at 12 Noon, and finishing at 3pm. |
Group description: | Our group members have wide ranging investment experience and work backgrounds. Discussion topics include reviewing our recent stock or collective investment buying and selling activity, plus what we are considering buying or selling and the reasons for our decisions. We also have a wider discussion on where we think opportunities might arise in the next few months and what we think needs to be avoided. Members occasionally lead discussions on specific topics such as recent events attended, articles or books of interest and sources of investment ideas and information. |
Meeting Type/Venue: | During the pandemic our meetings were held on Zoom, but we have now resumed meeting in person at a location a few miles to the west of Colchester. Most meetings will now be in person, but it is possible that occasional meetings will be held on Zoom in special circumstances. |
Meeting Frequency/Timing: | We meet midweek every two months. Zoom meetings run for about two hours from 10.30am and in person meetings from 11am until about 3pm, including a break for lunch. |
Group description: | This group meets to look at issues that are of interest to the group, to look at individual companies with an investors eye and collectively raise the group’s knowledge of investable companies. There is also discussion on buys and sells made by members which calls upon and builds the collective skills and understanding of the group members. |
Meeting Type/Venue: | The meetings are held in Piccadilly Circus in a pub private room. The group does not meet on zoom. |
Meeting Frequency/Timing: | The group meets on the second Wednesday in every month from 6.30pm to 9pm. |
Group description: | The National Group is open to all members of SIGnet. It is intended primarily for new SIGnet members, who may not yet have found another suitable group to join. We aim to welcome new members and discuss their investment interests and current investment topics. Investors with all levels of experience are welcome to join. |
Meeting Type/Venue: | Online |
Meeting Frequency/Timing: | The National Group meets monthly, on a weekday evening. Meetings are generally from 7-8:30pm. |
Group description: | This group was formed in September 2023 and meets in-person during the evening in a London pub. The group is open to all investors – a good proportion of the initial membership are experienced investors. |
Meeting Type/Venue: | In-person meetings. Pub. Dinner and drinks. |
Meeting Frequency/Timing: | Monthly on the third Tuesday of the month from 6-9pm. |
Group description: | Group focused on active investing, primarily in small / medium cap UK equities. |
Meeting Type/Venue: | Regular Zoom meetings interspersed with occasional face to face meetings and social activities in the North West. |
Meeting Frequency/Timing: | Monthly on Saturdays at 10am. |
Group description: | Our group covers a wide spectrum of mainly stock market investing and trading from equities – which include shares, ETF’s Investment and Unit Trusts. We normally rotate the meeting chairperson (responsible for creating, with member’s help, suitable agendas) and a meeting presenter (members take it in turns to provide a 15 to 45 minute presentation on a subject of their choice). Various investing topics of interest are regularly discussed such as software, brokers, investing categories and markets and any related topics of interest. |
Meeting Type/Venue: | Meetings will be returning to in-person in a private room at a West London golf club, close to an underground station. In the meantime monthly video calls and an in-between meeting email group will continue. |
Meeting Frequency/Timing: | In-person meetings will be held on the second Wednesday of each month in the afternoons, following a golf club one course lunch. |
Group description: | The Options group has been meeting monthly for some 20+ years and new members who are either trading or interested in trading options are always welcome. Our members trade options predominately on both UK and USA shares, indices, currencies and commodities. |
Meeting Type/Venue: | Meetings take place via video call. |
Meeting Frequency/Timing: | Meetings are monthly, on the 4th Wednesday of each month, normally from 12:30 to 2:30 and sometimes run over. |
Group description: | This group is nominally the Edinburgh group. However, the group actually draws membership from: Edinburgh, The Lothians, The Borders, Fife and Stirlingshire.
The majority of the group are what you could called ‘investors’ with a longer term outlook rather than ‘traders’, but several have broad experience in the markets. Most of the group are predominantly interested in equities within the context of a portfolio. Some members have interests across asset classes and are interested in portfolio construction and portfolio management. Although some members are highly experienced investors that is not true of all and experience level should not be seen as an impediment to joining. The group is open to new members. |
Meeting Type/Venue: | The aim is to have a mix of formats to support the requirements of all group members:
– Online meetings once per month in the evenings to suit those members who are working |
Meeting Frequency/Timing: | Our aim is to meet at least once a month virtually with physical meetings as frequently or more often when the opportunity arises. We are fortunate in Edinburgh to have many quality venues for meetings, and occasional investor events that allow ad-hoc meet-ups around the shared interest of investing. |
Group description: | This group is open to all levels of investor and is particularly popular because it meets after working hours in central London. The meeting usually has a presentation or group discussion on aspects of investing and also runs a Buys & Sells session which gives everyone the chance to see what the other group members are buying or selling and why. |
Meeting Type/Venue: | The venue is near Victoria Station in a pub where the group also enjoy a meal from a typical pub menu. |
Meeting Frequency/Timing: | This group meets in the evening in London. It is a face to face group that meets every third Tuesday in the month from 6.30pm to 9pm. |
Group description: | This group is for those interested in investing in the USA. It is open to all investors with a special interest in this area and all levels of experience are welcome. A typical meeting will have a discussion on a particular market issue or a presentation by a member or external speaker on a subject of interest to the group. All members are expected to play a part in presenting and to take an active role in making the group of value to all its members. |
Meeting Type/Venue: | As a specialist group with a wide geographic spread of members, our meetings are held on zoom. |
Meeting Frequency/Timing: | Meetings are monthly and are held on the third Tuesday in the month from 11-12.30PM. |
Group description: | A group that welcomes investors with all levels of experience. We aim to provide a friendly north-eastern welcome to anyone that wishes to join, share their knowledge of investing and benefit from others’ knowledge and experience.
The group discusses a range of investment related topics. |
Meeting Type/Venue: | Currently, we’re meeting in-person at a venue in Durham. |
Meeting Frequency/Timing: | Meetings occur monthly, on weekday evenings from 7pm-9pm. We may vary this, according to demand from group members. |
Group description: | We hold monthly in-person meetings with possible exceptions in August and December. Discussions are generally on the topic of investment strategy and potential companies of interest. Each member is expected to make an investment-related presentation approximately once a year. |
Meeting Type/Venue: | We meet in a private room at a pub around 7 miles SW of Oxford. We usually each order a dish from the pub menu that is served during the meeting. |
Meeting Frequency/Timing: | Meetings are in-person, monthly on the 4th Tuesday of the month at 7pm. Typical meetings last 2 to 2.5 hours. |
Group description: | The group is open to more experienced and established investors who are active traders in shares, bonds and other investment vehicles. All present members are “mature” individuals but this would not preclude younger experienced investors.
At present there is an interest within the group in AIM shares with a view to inheritance tax planning but this is not in preclusion to other interests, REITs, Investment Trusts, Property etc. |
Meeting Type/Venue: | Meetings take place in person at private houses mainly in the north Leeds area. On occasion, especially in the summer, meetings may be held in members’ houses elsewhere in the general area.
At each meeting the members outline their recent activity and its relevance to their overall investment goals. Current fiscal events and economic conditions are discussed. |
Meeting Frequency/Timing: | The group meets each month on a working day determined at the end of the preceding meeting.
The meetings commence at 10:30 am and continue until around 1:00 to 1:30 pm. |
Group description: | A small group covering Dorset and South Hampshire.
We enjoy wide ranging discussions sharing views and knowledge on all investing types. We discuss relevant world events, sectors of interest, unit and investment trusts and individual equities. The group has been running for many years and members are all active investors. New members welcome. |
Meeting Type/Venue: | Monthly meeting alternating between Zoom and Face to Face. The latter is in a local pub near the New Forest. All the meetings of recent years have taken place in the evening. |
Meeting Frequency/Timing: | Monthly during the evening, 7pm-9pm. |
Group description: | Meeting once a month, our group covers a variety of investment styles. We also have an active WhatsApp group and we welcome new members. |
Meeting Type/Venue: | Physical meetings at a venue in Preston, Hitchin, SG4. |
Meeting Frequency/Timing: | Monthly on a Saturday at 10am (usually the last Saturday of the month). |
Group description: | Experienced investors who have been members many years and newer members wanting to learn about investing. Members discuss portfolio content and reasons why they have certain assets and investments. Buys and sells discussed along with interesting shares being considered along with current issues in the market of local or international influence. |
Meeting Type/Venue: | Physical face to face meetings held in a central pub in Easton in Gordano. |
Meeting Frequency/Timing: | Usually monthly to 6 weekly, mid week 12 noon to 2pm with lunch. |
Group description: | We are a relatively small group, but have a wide range of interests so always start every meeting with a discussion about world issues and the “investing environment” generally. We always discuss individual members market activity and any interesting opportunities on their watchlists. There is currently a lot of expertise in the small cap value area of the market within the group. |
Meeting Type/Venue: | Our preference is for a physical meeting and a hotel in Meriden (Coventry) is the usual location, but we do have on-line meetings when weather and/or health issues make that the most suitable option. We rotate the chair and this is agreed at the previous meeting. |
Meeting Frequency/Timing: | Our preference is to meet every 4 weeks on a Thursday evening, but the exact details are agreed at the previous meeting. |
Group description: | Most members are experienced investors. The main focus is on equity investments (single stocks or investment trusts). Other asset classes are discussed. Meetings involve presentations from members who are expected to lead discussions from time to time. |
Meeting Type/Venue: | Meeting quarterly, physically in Central London. Other months (8 months per year) on Zoom. |
Meeting Frequency/Timing: | Meetings are generally held on the 3rd Wednesday of the month. The Quarterly physical meetings are from 11am-4pm (with approximately 1 hour break for lunch), the Zoom meetings (during the other 8 months) tend to last up to 2 hours (11am – 12:45pm). |
Group description: | A long-established group, however, we welcome new applications. Our meetings start at 10:15am with coffee and scones when members comment on their investment activities since the previous month. Generally, each member reports on a specific Company/IT/Fund e.t.c. This brings us to about 12:30pm when the meeting ends, and we have lunch. |
Meeting Type/Venue: | In-person at a Golf Club in Belfast. |
Meeting Frequency/Timing: | The group usually meets on the second Wednesday of the month, all year round, except in July and August when we have no meetings. Meetings commence at 10:15am and last 2-3 hours (including lunch). |
Group description: | We welcome anyone interested in investments regardless of their level of knowledge and experience. |
Meeting Type/Venue: | Physical meeting in the Boardroom of a venue in RG9 (pre-meetings in the bar). |
Meeting Frequency/Timing: | Monthly – 3rd Wednesday of each month at 18:00 (except January, where the meeting will be held at lunch time). |
Group description: | We are a friendly social group welcoming investors with all levels of experience. Our membership varies between those with little or no knowledge of investing to those who live off their investing or their portfolios. We do not invest as a group so there is no money on the table, and we never discuss individual worth; we simply discuss and share investing ideas, we analyse the state of the market, individual stocks, funds, trusts, bonds etc., and we invite contributions from all group members. Guest speakers and company presentations are a regular feature, as is the SIGnet competition and also our own long-term Manchester Portfolio. We invite members to volunteer presentations from time to time on particular topics of their interest / expertise. At each meeting members are asked to share their latest or potential buying and selling activity. Our face-to-face meetings are punctuated by a lunch break, and for those with the time there is socialising and drinks afterwards. Most of all we learn from each other. |
Meeting Type/Venue: | The group meets through a combination of Zoom and face-to-face meetings at a central Manchester boardroom style venue. |
Meeting Frequency/Timing: | Meets bi-monthly, 10am-3pm on Monday mornings, usually mid-month. |
Group description: | The Leicester Square Group welcomes investors with all levels of experience, but all members are expected to contribute to our discussions. We discuss/analyse individual stocks, market trends and investment topics. Guest speakers are sometimes invited to address the group. At each meeting all members are asked to inform the group of what stocks or collective investments they’ve been buying or selling, or are considering buying or selling. A friendly and supportive discussion is encouraged. The meeting is punctuated by a lunch break, providing an opportunity to socialise. After the meeting, members may stay on for drinks and to socialise further. |
Meeting Type/Venue: | Physical meetings at a central London venue |
Meeting Frequency/Timing: | Meets bi-monthly, 11am-4pm on a weekday |
Congratulations Cliff. I have read through the article quickly, and think that you have covered all the issues very well. I basically agree with everything that you say; especially the personal satisfaction aspects for an individual of choosing to select shares for at least part of their portfolio.
My one issue is identifying the target audience.
I think that a reader would need to be reasonably well informed to understand the article. The problem is that writing for less well informed readers is much harder, and makes articles much longer, because so much more has to be explained.
I know exactly what you mean by “Another potential source of premium returns is the ‘illiquidity premium’ associated with less liquid asset classes such as…” but I presume that I am not the target audience.